Curse

Lord Dobo · Feb 25, 2006, 07:49 AM // 07:49

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Originally Posted by Avarre

We are now officially at war. Be advised, male mesmer. I'm going to hunt you down and use your spine as a staff.

What exactly do you have against male mesmers? Is it somehow less effeminate to pretend to be a girl? Is someone a little insecure? Or just a little confused when looking in the mirror? I harbor no ill will towards you, I think you're genius in your play of your class... but this loathing strikes me as a little... neurotic...

Avarre · Feb 25, 2006, 07:50 AM // 07:50

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Originally Posted by d4nowar

Domination is used mainly for Surge and burn, usually arcane echoed surge. Backfire maybe some interrupts because they think they can control every single mob out there.

PVE mesmers are generally sub-par spikers. While they can do a ton of damage at once, their recharge on all of those skills is like 20-30 seconds, and by the time your spike is over, you'll be at 0 energy.

Hehe... hehehe.... bwahahahahaha!

Do you really believe that, and think thats how most mesmers play?

That's like saying PVE warriors are generally mending paladins.

...ok so you'd be right, but it doesn't mean the real mesmers don't do different.

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What exactly do you have against male mesmers? Is it somehow less effeminate to pretend to be a girl? Is someone a little insecure? Or just a little confused when looking in the mirror? I harbor no ill will towards you, I think you're genius in your play of your class... but this loathing strikes me as a little... neurotic...

It's my little eccentricity, pay no notice

Rask Finn · Feb 25, 2006, 08:26 AM // 08:26

I'm a Domination Mesmer, and I can farm Hydras very easily. Pretty much anything that relies on spells is cannon fodder for the mesmer.

Its also rare that I ever run out of energy. And no, neither of the echos are in my skill bar.

And what other class can wear a bow-tie? Thats the definition of class, right there..

Kriel Drache · Mar 11, 2006, 11:17 AM // 11:17

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Originally Posted by Avarre

We are now officially at war. Be advised, male mesmer. I'm going to hunt you down and use your spine as a staff.

Two things. One, that would be Mesmer sacrilege simply due to the fact that there would be one less Mesmer in the world... though it would only take a resurrection spell to bring him back and somehow let him grow a new spine. Kinda like when your whole skeleton gets removed and horribly deformed to add to an unholy legion of the dead and you grow a brand new one when resurrected.
Second, it would be the most powerful staff in the game! That just churns up so many entertaining images of Mesmers carrying around their own spine as a weapon.

Oh, and eccentricities are what make those people brilliant.

Avarre · Mar 11, 2006, 11:29 AM // 11:29

Bone Staves have to come from somewhere! Adding a new green called 'X's Spine' would be pretty cool, like the 'String of Ears' in Diablo II

Anyways, it goes without saying a bone staff from a mesmer spine is superior to a bone staff from any other spine.

Kriel Drache · Mar 11, 2006, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Naturally. We Mesmers draw from a deeper level of magic than any other profession. This, in turn, means that when you wield the spine of a Mesmer you are wielding something that has access to the core of magic and thus shall be god-like in its power. However, no one shall wield my spine until the end of July. I'm in Germany right now and the Internet is currently down in my dorm room (goes off to sob quietly in a corner). If any of you quest with me in July and I don't perform up to par with a good Mesmer, don't think poorly of me. It's because I haven't been able to use my magic to raise people's blood pressure to dangerously high levels in the past 5 months. I'm in the Internet room in the library and they don't allow gaming on the library computers, so I am not contradicting myself. If the Internet comes back in my room or I can hook up my laptop to the network at Savigny Haus, then I'll see you all then. Oh, and I like my spine. Please don't remove it. I'm still using it.

dreamhunk · Mar 11, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Ok, two classies I play is e/me and a me/e. I have the 15k lords armor for for mesmer dyed black. He is also a black male mesmer on top of that lol. Alot of people always come up to me and say my charactor looks cool.

As for fast casting I love it, I have it maxed out. I use a balance of fire as well as mesmer skills. I am still learing the memser class but I have say I love it. People who have played with seen my tactics are impressed maily because I use both mesmer skills as well as fire skills.

I can also say my build is far from a cookie cuter, very fast. I am still trying new setups and new skills with my mesmer. I have come to love him as much as my nuker. It is hard to say it but the mesmer is better dressed than my nuker.lol

leeky baby · Mar 11, 2006, 10:22 PM // 22:22

i love mesmers

Ninetail Trickster · Mar 11, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31

A lot of people don't like Mesmers because they're different. Mesmers are, until the Ritualists come to pwn all, the most original class in Guild Wars.

Warrior- Swordsman/Knight
Monk- Priest/Healer
Ranger- Archer
Elementalist- Mage
Necromancer- OMGGOTH AWESOME BLOODANDDEATH
Mesmer-...

They defy all stereotype. Bard is close, as someone I think said toward the beginning of this thread, but only in terms of function. People will go with what they're familiar with, and what they're familiar with is Swords, Arrows, Fire and Angst, not thespians.

(Note: Nothing against Necros. They're great, if done well. That was aimed at those ten year olds with character names like 'Dark Naruto Dragon' and 'Mega Killer Death'.)

remmeh · Mar 12, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00

i started a pve mesmer about 2 weeks ago and it's been a blast, every second of it. except capping fevered dreams... );

but this topic has been beaten to death already. mesmers don't fit any previous stereotype.

lg5000 · Mar 12, 2006, 02:51 AM // 02:51

My mesmer happens to like his spine, and his purple/pink top! I swear, the guy has a mind of his own and I don't wanna know what he's up to half the time...

Lord Dobo · Mar 12, 2006, 04:06 AM // 04:06

Mesmers not fiting a stereotype? They are illusionists and mentalists. I think you want to beleive that they fit no mold... cold hard truth is I heard mesmer when first picking up the game and knew exactly what I was going to see. Not that that's bad... they still defeat all others... because they are the thinking man's mage... drawing the intelligent. They mess with the meta-game. That puts more of a shiver up your spine than any necromancer. They deal in pure game mechanics. A warrior needs to attck and a mage needs to cast... and a mesmer needs to dominate them both.

Toben_Hexx · Mar 12, 2006, 04:20 AM // 04:20

Bah, sick of the "Gay" mesmer thing. If you want, you can opt to make them look that way. Alot depends on hairstyle, and courtly armor, butr even courtly done rigth you can look like an insane harlequin freak. But still more hetero than a blue haired elem in hydro armor.

Age · Mar 17, 2006, 09:38 PM // 21:38

I believe that most don't pick Mesmur in Pve as they make a better secoundary to all prefessions.I would assume the only popular Mesmer would be Mes/Mo in a party.I even find it hard playing this profession in PvP but I still have way to many skills to unlock.I am considering making a Ele/Mes.

NinjaKai · Mar 17, 2006, 09:44 PM // 21:44

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Originally Posted by Toben_Hexx

Bah, sick of the "Gay" mesmer thing. If you want, you can opt to make them look that way. Alot depends on hairstyle, and courtly armor, butr even courtly done rigth you can look like an insane harlequin freak. But still more hetero than a blue haired elem in hydro armor.

The new armors with factions armor for mesmers looks good. One from a distance looks like something you'd find an asian noble wearing. But time shall tell if the 'gay' mesmer stereotype will disappear. Shame we can't dye boxers, they are purple. T_T

Lord Dobo · Mar 18, 2006, 05:24 AM // 05:24

I've been a primary elementalist or warrior most of the time, and have just resently been learning my mesmer's role. And I have to say I love it. I've been able to do every mission in the game with my mesmer and henchmen. Nothing else. The last few missions really taught me how to use my domination skills, and I can't wait to really push myself in the other attributes.
And if you think fastcasting isn't worth it, you really don't know what you are talking about. Faster spells means faster damage, faster response, faster healing, faster everything. It really makes a difference in keeping an enemy down and your party up. It also means that being interupted by the enemy is harder. You notice it if you try it.

Allanon Dark · Mar 18, 2006, 06:11 AM // 06:11

Mesmer is one of the most under-appreciated classes in the game. If people only began to realise the true power that a talanted mesmer can unleash then there would be more mesmers. However, this class is not for everyone. Most people restrict themselves to the usuall classes of the War, Monk, Ele, etc. and to a degree i have to admit the same as well. Mesmer blood does run in all of my chars veins though. Their support skills and debuffs are second to none. For me i find that I can utilize a Mesmer more fully as my secondary proffesion than my first.

Jakerius · Mar 18, 2006, 06:46 AM // 06:46

I like the fact there are so few mesmers. It increases the chance of getting a good one that knows what he/she is doing in the group, and how they can contribute instead of some noob who spams Backfire on warriors.

Zakarr · Mar 18, 2006, 08:24 AM // 08:24

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Why are there so few mesmers around in PvE?

Mesmer requires more knowledge about the game if you want to use its full potential. Average player notice effectiveness only when something is visually hitting to the foes. Mesmer's actions are quite invisible and their culture is considered "soft, gay, weak, etc." which is bad for virtual ego boosters. Those who don't know much about the game, are more likely playing only PvE so even if Mesmers are appreciated in PvP, they have weak status in PvE. That is the public opinion I afraid. Clichés have deep roots in RPG games. If there is new type of character, it will be rejected very often because you don't have any knowledge about them.

Some players complain for example about annoying monk bosses. Good mesmer will save your day in frustrating situations.

Bob of Maple Ave · Mar 18, 2006, 09:08 AM // 09:08

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Dunham (the Mes hench) doesn't seem to use interrupts? It seems like he uses a lot of energy draining skills...which, of course, are even harder to see than interrupts.

I'm sure this has been mentioned, because it's so obvious, but why not show the enemies energy bar as well as his life bar? I mean, it would have a pretty dramatic effect: "Hey Ned, did you take that Hydra's Energy Bar 1/2 way down? (Ned) Nooooo....did you do it, Labius Constricticus? (Labius Constricticus) Nooo..... (both look over to the Mesmer...)

I'm guessing there's an ongoing debate as to why this is or isn't good, and I've just missed it in my n00bness.

Until I went Ele/Mes to improve my chances of getting on a team, I really had no idea what they did. I'd put Dunham on my team occasionally, but never really saw an appreciable effect that would warrant him taking over, say, a second fighter position.

If there are no plans to show mob energy, maybe they could give him some interrupts so people could see how indespensible a good mesmer is. There have been many times I've been sitting there waiting for exhaustion to wear off/energy to recharge, when I wished a good mes was around to break that damned "infuse health" the monks were casting on each other...

As far as PvP goes...I plan on making a PvP only Mesmer in the future. To me, it seems like the mesmers are where the real action is, with the split-second interrupts and whatnot.

PS: Mesmers do look kind of gay (or at the very least, metrosexual)...but male ele's have a kind of Siegfried and Roy unmistakable gay thing happening. If this game had white tigers, they'd definitely have a lawsuit on their hands...(especially if people got in the habit of using Otyugh's Cry more often...)

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Originally Posted by Warskull

Most PvE players are ignorant and suck pretty bad. They run cookie cutter builds because that is all they can run.

The rest of the post didn't seem too bad, but it all forgotten when I read this entirely stupid and offensive generalization.